I haven't written one of these long, rambling, thoughtful posts in a while, and I used to really enjoy them - so I'll do one in the course of Dress Your Best. Because I really like my brain, and letting it roam around between decoratively arranged streams of consciousness is as close as I'll get to dressing it up! So here's some musings about the boundaries we impose on body confidence, to round off the Dress Your Best weeks.
[I'm putting on my thinking hat!]
My little sister, who has lately been saying lots of insightful things, read my post about dressing to flatter my bust and pointed out to me that, well, maybe people will think I'm over-confident if I don't criticize anything about myself. Implying that I wouldn't want people to think that of me.
Alas, 'tis true - and I think that, at least when it comes to body shapes and dressing up, it shouldn't be. It is really hard to have too much body confidence! That's kind of the point of the Dress-your-best challenge, as well as of any body image blog I've seen around the internet.
My sister's comment reminded me of something else though, something that may be at the root of this reproach of overconfidence:
The social script that allows - or obliges - women to bond over body bashing.
"My thighs are so fat, I wish I was slim like you!" - "What do you mean, slim? Look at that belly pouch! I wish I was toned like you are!"
There's a bunch of stuff going on in an interaction like this. Each participant puts herself down while complimenting the other. The motivations are manifold and I can only grasp them intuitively (I've never studied social psychology after all!), but here's an attempt:
One part of it may be to avoid competition and discord - because girls are told that competition is unfeminine and that creating a harmonious environment at all costs is their task. You don't want others to be envious of your good features because that creates discord, therefore don't let your good features shine - adopt a submissive manner, put yourself below others. Submissive behavior towards men as figures of authority is another script that women were taught, luckily much more in the past than in the present, but the remnants still seem to stick around, even in the interaction of women among themselves.
The other part may be the wish to have someone contradict you - saying nasty things about yourself in the hope of having others jump in to correct you and catch a compliment that way.
Of course if everybody engages in this script, everybody gets some compliments, nobody needs to feel envious or left out, and everybody is happy... or is she? The problem is that the bad things we say about ourselves stick around in our minds, and we end up believing them much more than the nice things others tell us. Ever notice how difficult it is to take a compliment without giving an answer that deprecates the lauded feature? Also, it's not like we actually avoid competition that way - we just turn it even more toxic by attempting to ban it, and it remains a nasty undercurrent in all interactions. Because this pattern of interaction fosters insecurities and low confidence, and if anything, these increase the need to prove oneself better than others.
And that really isn't necessary - we know there isn't just one narrow beauty standard in the world, there's enough beauty for everyone to claim their bit of it. Competition may be part of human nature, but please, let's give it a level and healthy playing field without the stumbling blocks of self-deprecation.
Still, it's scary to break out of long-standing social scripts. And if I say good things about my own body, that's exactly what I'm doing. There's no way this will prevent me from also complimenting others on their bodies - in fact, being happy with myself makes me more likely to notice good features in others, and to be able to acknowledge them without toxicity creeping in. But it may offend them just because it's breaking the customary behavior pattern, just because it's not what they're used to, and because it means they have to question their own habits.
And since being scared of change is also part of human nature, they'd rather think there's something wrong with whoever is challenging them to do so, or with themselves. They end up believing that I can only do X because I have some imaginary feature Y, which they don't have, and envying me, or that I am really just impertinent for doing X because "it's not done!", and hating me for that reason. It's happened - I briefly lived with two girls who were very good at engaging in body-bashing-talk ("Ugh, I'm so fat, I should wear spanx all the time! Ugh, I really HATE my hair!"), and when I pointed out that their bodies were really fine, there was nothing to hate about them, without the addendum of self-bashing that would have been required to meet expectations, they turned their dislike onto me. It may not have helped that I was in fact slightly more petite than them, but it should really not have mattered because there's beauty at every size of body frame.
Why oh why do we keep doing this to ourselves?
[Take note that there are some few things I don't like that much about my body. I'm aware it fits the "young, slim, conventionally pretty" mold rather closely, and I honestly can't tell how much of my confidence comes from that (I've talked about this at length in an FFB post back in March) - but I'm also aware that my skin has a tendency to break out in pimples at the slightest hint of stress, and that my joints aren't the most stable, that my upper legs, like those of almost every woman above age 16, bear some of the dints commonly known as cellulite, and that I'm entirely un-athletic. Does this make me hate my body, though? Not on most days. And I am pretty glad about that because there was a time when I hated my body non-stop, and it really wasn't fun.]

I definitely agree. Women have been taught for a while that tooting your own horn is being too forward and modesty is the worthy attribute. Since complimenting others is not a spontaneous thing most of the time, the only way to get comments is to fish for them. And since asking for them can be too forward, the only way to maintain modesty while fishing for the desired compliment is the downer that invites the obligatory comment. And it is obligatory. Think how when someone says something down about themselves we automatically form a rebuttal of some kind, even if we may agree with the statement. It is an annoying social ritual.
ReplyDeleteSo I agree with you. Putting ourselves down to gain a compliment is a negative-sum game. Women should be as encouraged as men to view themselves positively and not focus on the negative out of some sort of false modesty to conform to an outdated social construct. Nobody is perfect, but confidence and a smile does wonders.
I've noticed myself doing this in response to these Dress my Bests posts a couple of times. Not quite knowing what to comment, I have "put down" my similar body part! In truth, I don't like the idea of parting out my body--isn't that what is done so often on billboards and in some magazines. I really like the whole package...and while I enjoy a good "body image" post, sometimes it is just so predictable.
ReplyDelete"Submissive behavior towards men as figures of authority is another script that women were taught." I couldn't agree with this more. I'm surprised that fashion blogger would address this sort of a topic (It's all fun and peachy in the blogging world most of the time) but I'm glad you did. A lot of the compliments passed around the fashion blogging world aren't very sincere and I think this is part of the reason why (among other things, like getting followers etc.) Anyway, I love this post.
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i've talk to a couple of friends lately and both of them say two different things and approach about me and its quite flattering but I do not really know if they mean it...i just put myself in between, not too confident neither inconfident...i do not like it too when there is competition as to physical looks, so far, im glad i do not have this feeling to anyone...
ReplyDeleteI come here to learn and go away educated. This discussion on female-communication is very helpful to me. From a male perspective, behavior like this is baffling, but you make sense out of it. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteYou'd be amazed by the reactions I get when I respond to a compliment with only a big smile and a "Thank you!" Responses range from delighted that I didn't put down whatever the person was complimenting, to nearly-nastiness.
ReplyDeleteWe should take delight in our bodies. They're how we interact with the world!
there was a time a hated my body (when i was a teenager) but now (26yrs) i don't, not really. and i think that is because i don't read trashy magazines. some times i find myself feeling guilty that i don't loath my body. like there is something saying "how dare you not care that you have big hips and small boobs when everyone else cares so much"
ReplyDeleteHi there! I'm new to your blog, but am glad that I came across it!
ReplyDeleteGreat post, lady. Congrats on your win in this week's IFB Links a la Mode! I, like most women, struggle with my body image and use fashion and style (and as a result, blogging) to feel good about myself! Thanks for the inspiration. xx
-Hallie :)
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Just a note from someone who took a semester of social psych and is OBVIOUSLY an expert on it now, haha: studies have found that from a young age, girls bond by finding common ground (Oh, I have that doll, too! I watch that show, too! Wow, we both love unicorns!), while boys tend to be more about one-upping each other, even in fun. I don't know how much this is socially ingrained and how much of it is hardwired in our brains from our hunter-gatherer days, but when you brought this up, I wondered if it's possible to turn this tradition of ours on its head and start a conversation about the parts of ourselves we LIKE. Would our friends join in, you think? Or would the social norm of "modesty" win them over still?
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